Student journalist specializing in the sphere of sport, entertainment and Japanese culture. Polley reminds me of an underground publisher I once worked for. Jenkins replacement was Tom Evans, born in Liverpool on June 5, 1947. Please contact Find a Grave at [emailprotected] if you need help resetting your password. His clients were mostly American artists, including Al Kooper and Lou Christie, but Polley is mostly known for his alleged mismanagement of the British band Badfinger. 126.04. We could always write songs; we could always play. For a time, everything was great.. This is better." And an accusatory blast toward Badfinger's business manager, Stan Polley, with Ham writing: "P.S. Your new password must contain one or more uppercase and lowercase letters, and one or more numbers or special characters. 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Please enter your email address and we will send you an email with a reset password code. It was very hard to get over that. The people in the States thought it sounded crude and rough. Their girlfriends and wives wondered why the band was living in a cramped house while their songs were being played on the radio and they were jamming with ex-Beatles members. "It was [manager] Bill Collins who suggested we join their two ideas. No, we didnt. Resend Activation Email, Please check the I'm not a robot checkbox, If you want to be a Photo Volunteer you must enter a ZIP Code or select your location on the map. I meet people all the time who know our music. His potentially provocative comments proved to be a blessing when Paul McCartney read the piece, and responded by offering the band Come And Get It, an infectious new tune hed written for the soundtrack of the upcoming Ringo Starr/Peter Sellers film The Magic Christian. He's also written several music-related books and liner notes for numerous CD reissues and box sets and has contributed essays and other pieces to other books, including all six editions of The Trouser Press Record Guide. Oops, we were unable to send the email. Molland said he got inspiration from things that happened to him, such as splitting up with his girlfriend. He took the tracks that George had done and mixed them. On April 24, 1975, Hams girlfriend, who was pregnant with their daughter at the time, discovered his body hanging in their garage. The un-cooperation of the Beatles isnt helping either. "The band was also getting an edge, drinking more, taking drugs.". With Pete gone and Badfingers recording career off the rails, Hams surviving bandmates attempted to piece their lives back together, while the multiple band-related lawsuits slowly worked their way through the court system on both sides of the Atlantic. Can you come down and play some guitar? So the car came and we went to Johns place; we went into the studio, and there was John. Polley's notorious ripping off of Badfinger effectively ended his career as a major music manager, but not as a con. Yes, their manager, Stan Polley, screwed both the band and the record label by absconding with the advance money through a series of schemes and shell companies. The Iveys struggled to keep their heads above water, barely scraping by on their meager gig receipts and the small weekly stipend that Collins paid them. This flower has been reported and will not be visible while under review. There are times when it all feels like a dream, says guitarist Joey Molland, recalling the glory days a half century ago when Badfinger ruled the airwaves with a series of exquisitely crafted pop-rock hits like Come and Get It, No Matter What, Day After Day and Baby Blue. The new moniker was suggested by Beatles staffer Neil Aspinall, who borrowed it from Bad Finger Boogie, a working title that John Lennon had used for the song that became With A Little Help from My Friends.. Speaking to BBC's Week In Week Out programme in 1987, the band's solicitor Tim Douglas-Jones said no money from the US was ever recovered. We were uncomfortable with the whole thing, but we went along with it.. That outfit, which also included ex-Yes keyboardist Tony Kaye, released a pair of underwhelming albums that attracted little attention. Stan Polley is a souless bastard. . Stan Polley is a soulless bastard. Becoming a Find a Grave member is fast, easy and FREE. Husband of Joan (Scott) Polley for 64 years. Stan Polley (1922- 2009) is a retired American music entrepreneur who, for a time, managed the business ventures of several musicians. [Laughs] Im sure. Learn more about managing a memorial . Pete had a lot of faith in him, and I dont know why because the guy was a crook. Quickly see who the memorial is for and when they lived and died and where they are buried. Beatles engineer Geoff Emerick started that album as producer. It was met with both praise and cynical Beatles comparison, but was eventually embraced as the accompaniment to the Magic Christian film. Despite a few memorable songse.g. ZincOrbie 16:43, 30 January 2006 (UTC) [ reply] The Warner Bros. contract called for the groups advances to be paid into an escrow account, but after the companys publishing division was unsuccessful in locating hundreds of thousands of dollars in advances that the company had deposited into the account, it filed a lawsuit against Polley. Nationality: American: Occupation: Entertainment Manager: Stanley Herbert Polley (April 7, 1922 - July 20, 2009) was an entertainment manager active in the 1960s and 1970s. Close this window, and upload the photo(s) again. Previously sponsored memorials or famous memorials will not have this option. "In the end, there was no demo and we had trouble sticking Without You together.". Stan Polley went on to swindle other people before dying in 2009 at the age of 87. Despite the bands bitter career travails, there has never been any lapse in demand for Badfingers music. A subscription makes a thoughtful gift for both family and friends. He didnt really think about what he was going to say before he said it he just said it. Discussion of suicide or self-harm is not tolerated and will result in an immediate ban. His general discomfort expressing his deepest emotions influenced him to turn to songwriting as an outlet. Alan T, Oct 26, 2009 #110 wildstar Senior Member Location: ontario, canada Alan T said: Badfinger were on a downward spiral in record sales after the last Apple LP. In fact, some referred to the band as, The new Fab Four and they were handpicked by the members of the Beatles themselves. Polley was 87 years old when he died in Riverside County, California. There, they shared the overcrowded space with the Mojos, another group that Collins managed which included his son Lewis Collins, later a noted TV actor. Collins was insistent that the band sign with Apple Records, which was owned by the Beatles themselves. He soon formed an instrumental combo called the Panthers, quickly emerging as an adept guitarist and disciplined bandleader. His clients included rock band Badfinger, musician Al Kooper, and singer Lou Christie. Two of the original members, Joey Molland and Tom Evans set up rival Badfinger bands. Throughout his career, Polley defrauded a number of clients and associates, most notably Badfinger. Amid. THE SHOCKING LIVE TELEVISION SUICIDE OF A NEWS ANCHOR! Ive got nothing against love songs, but I want them to come from more of a Tamla/Motown kind of thing Martha and the Vandellas. Oy vey.) Everyone has their own opinion. Id heard of them, but they didnt mean that much. I take it you didnt mind letting a Beatle have a go at the guitar track. Failed to report flower. The band left Apple in the spring of 1972 and signed with Warner Brothers, a contract that required them to produce a new album every 6 months for 3 years. By 1974, we were getting somewhat suspicious about it. He is also a former editor of Guitar World, contributing writer for Guitar Aficionado and VP of A&R for Island Records. In 1964, the Panthers changed their name to the Black Velvets, then to the Wild Ones and finally to the Iveys. Stan Polley outlived both the band that he helped to destroy and the two men hed driven to suicide. He signed the members to various contracts that directed their touring, recording and publishing income into holding companies that he controlled. In November 1970, the band and Bill Collins, understandably concerned over the disorganization that prevailed at Apple, had handed Badfingers business affairs over to New York-based business manager Stan Polley. Are you adding a grave photo that will fulfill this request? We didnt do big versions of things; we wanted to be a rock band. Badfinger were the first act signed to the fab four's Apple Records and wrote Without You, which later became a massive hit for Harry Nilsson. However, there's a chilling connection to the singer's tragic end. We had two people in the band take their own lives thats a tragedy on a human level. Contents 1 Biography We did 50 or 60 dates on our first tour, and then a year later we did another tour. But Pete was firmly committed to rock n roll. The band would release their seventh studio album, Wish You Were Here in late 1974 which received much critical acclaim, but was abruptly pulled from store shelves by Warner after the label discovered that their $250,000 advance payment to the bands management went missing. He was that good. Not everyone was fully convinced though. Stan Polley is a soulless . We had to all sit down at a table and agree how it was going to be divided, and then we had to get lawyers involved. Your account has been locked for 30 minutes due to too many failed sign in attempts. In 1970, the group hooked up with the music agent Stan Polley, who quickly became their manager. Desperate and in the throes of depression, Ham hanged himself in his garage in 1975. Starring: Sarah Polley, Michael Polley, Harry Gulkin. He ran off with Badfinger's income, the record company money, leading to 2 band member suicides. The Liverpool-born guitarist joined the Welsh/English group, then called the Iveys (which also featured singer-guitarist Pete Ham, singer-bassist Tom Evans and drummer Mike Gibbins), at a most fortuitous time. In his heart breaking suicide note, he mentioned the love of his girlfriend and included the post script, "Stan Polley is a soulless bastard." Stan Polley was Badfinger's manager who was accused by many of his clients of corruption. I think we would have gone a long way with that. By this point, the Iveys hometown had a sizable scene of Beatles-inspired beat groups. Use Escape keyboard button or the Close button to close the carousel. Pete was also a trusting, innocent soul, and that personality trait would eventually cost him dearly. I got to make records. The same year, the band released their third record Straight Up, producing two more hits, Day After Day and Baby Blue. Polley, meanwhile, paid the band members individual salaries, which the musicianswho by now were locked into an exhausting cycle of near-constant touring and recordingcomplained were paltry in relation to the actual earnings that they were generating. The sponsor of a memorial may add an additional. Already in his 50s, Collins had played piano in dance bands in the 1940s, and more recently had briefly road-managed the Kinks. By the time Badfinger hired Polleywithout having a lawyer look at the contract that he offeredsome of his other clients had already come to suspect that Polley was mishandling their finances. "In 1974, I left for America with 700. No advertising or spamming is permitted. Also in 1982, Evans, Gibbins and Bob Jackson somehow fell in with John Cass, a shadowy Milwaukee entrepreneur with minimal music-industry experience, who nonetheless promised to relaunch Badfingers career with a lucrative tour and a high-profile record deal. cemeteries found within miles of your location will be saved to your photo volunteer list. Cass convinced the trio to relocate temporarily to Milwaukee, where they lived in poverty for two months while waiting fruitlessly for the proposed tour to materialize. While Polley had a lot of control over the band, if he was able to negotiate a deal with a different label, he could exert even more control over the group. It was Tom, who had hanged himself from a tree in their backyard. Stanley Herbert Polley (April 7, 1922 - July 20, 2009) was an American entertainment manager and fraudster active in the 1960s and 1970s. His clients included rock band Badfinger, musician Al Kooper, singer Lou Christie, singer-producer Hank Medress, arranger Charles Calello, composer Sandy Linzer, WABC disc jockey Bob Lewis, among others. Rancho Mirage, Riverside County, California, USA. It took the label a little while to get the song on the radio, but once they did, the record did really well.. During the early months of 1975, Ham repeatedly tried in vain to reach Polley via telephone, hoping to get a handle on the bands out-of-control legal situation and the money that he was owed. In 2013, Baby Blue was prominently featured in the closing scene of the final episode of TVs Breaking Bad. PS Stan Polley is a soulless bastard. By the time of its release in 1974, it would be self-titled by default. The deal was awful: any money they got from touring, recording, publishing, and songwriter . This led to arguments, with Ham quitting before returning. [3], The following year, in 1972, Polley negotiated a record contract with Warner Bros. Records for Badfinger, which called for advances to be paid into an escrow account. The SG was given to us by George Harrison. Please ensure you have given Find a Grave permission to access your location in your browser settings. The Iveys released their first single for Apple in 1968 titled Maybe Tomorrow. Prospective new managers and booking agents were leery of working with the band, due to the restrictive contracts that they had entered into with Polley, and the Warner lawsuit and the Apple publishing dispute that continued to hang over the bands heads. "After that, concerts started selling out, it was like we had a hit record again. On the night of April 23, 1975 in the London suburb of Surrey, Ham and Tom Evans had drinks at a local pub, commiserating over their mutual misfortune. I met some guys who wanted to put a band together, and I liked them, so we started something up. Using a mix of interviews and sly home movies, Sarah Polley creates an intriguing profile of her family, especially her complicated late mother. [Keyboardist] Nicky Hopkins was there, [drummer] Jim Keltner was there. Prior to signing with Warner Brothers, Polley also urged the band to sign a new management contract with him. Good riddance. He formed new companies to house future artists he secured, including composers Irwin Levine and Larry Brown. "But I was told there was no money," he said. The single 'Something'/'Come Together' was released on 31 October 1969. Found more than one record for entered Email, You need to confirm this account before you can sign in. But the Iveysnow comprised of Ham, Gibbins, Griffiths and guitarist David Dai Jenkinshad bigger goals, thanks largely to Petes ambition and focus. Badfinger's (USA) manager, Stan Polley. The story of the British power pop phenomenon is one of hits, Beatles, music industry sharks and tragedy. [Laughs] He was a complete genius as a singer, writer and just well, he was John Lennon! Your Scrapbook is currently empty. You worked with John Lennon on Imagine, and you played acoustic guitar on George Harrisons All Things Must Pass. I wanted to play guitar music with a harder bite to it. Like this story? "I perform them the best I can and try and bring them to life. Pete Ham told the New Musical Express in 1971, There wasnt much promotion done there suddenly wasnt anyone at Apple to work on it.. As the only married occupant of the groups communal London home, and the father of a ten-month-old child, Griffiths family responsibilities sparked conflict between him and Evans, who questioned his level of dedication to the band. On April 10, 1970, the rock world was shocked to learn that the Beatles had broken up. While not a manager per-se, he did have industry connections, and got them a job as the backing band for David Garrick. He described them as having fun living in London, playing practical jokes, going to the pub and watching Monty Python. The site covers music, art, culture, fashion, poetry and movies from the 60s through today. "It came from [a name for] John [Lennon] who could play piano but was not the greatest player," said Molland. However questionable its legitimacy, the Cass lawsuit was a major source of consternation for Evans, who was already broken emotionally from his years of soul-crushing legal and financial struggles. Their shows were so popular that the band members commanded more attention than Garrick himself, particularly Dai Jenkins. We had guitars in our songs! Hams Apple of My Eye, which reflected his mixed feelings about leaving the labelthe album was a musical and commercial disappointment. He always had a good reason for doing something, but he wanted you to feel good about it. Was calling the bands 1973 album Ass met with resistance? On April 25, 1975 . He was that concerned. P.S. The show helped boost the sales of the song which became the 9th most selling song on Amazon and streams on Spotify increased a whopping 9,000% after the finale aired. His potentially provocative comments proved to be a blessing when Paul McCartney read the piece, and responded by offering the band Come And Get It, an infectious new tune hed written for the soundtrack of the upcoming Ringo Starr/Peter Sellers film The Magic Christian. GREAT NEWS! By this point in time, Ron Griffiths left the group due to friction between himself and Tom Evans and the fact that his family life took precedence. The Iveys had put out some records before Come and Get It that didnt really take off, Molland says. William Stanley Polley of Listowel, passed away peacefully at Freeport Hospital, Kitchener, on Wednesday December 23, 2020, in his 88th year. He said he couldnt relate to anybody. Unbelievable. By the time he joined Badfinger, Molland had accumulated a good deal of professional experience, having played with such acts as the Merseys, the Masterminds and Gary Walker & the Rain. . Learn more about merges. What I knew of the Iveys was that they were a bit too pop for me at the time. Answer (1 of 12): If you want to hear three famous songs that have the Beatles sound down cold, give a listen to these excellent Badfinger tunes from the late 60s/early 70s: "Day After Day," "No Matter What" and "Come and Get It." "Day After Day," a Top 5 smash from 1971, was written by Pete Ham. The TV Room David Soref - SorefTV Deep insights into the culture and events surrounding televisions first half-century, and beyond. It was through his association with Christie that he met and began working with other artists in the New York and Los Angeles entertainment fields. He encouraged the band to focus on songwriting and Pete Ham took that to heart, demoing tons of original songs using the houses makeshift studio. It was very complicated. In an interview in Disc & Music Echo magazine, bassist Ron Griffiths complained about Apple neglecting the Iveys. With the quartet short on material, many of the eponymous albums songs were written under pressure in the studio. Pete called Stan because he needed some money to buy something for his girlfriend, and he was told that he had no money left. It wasnt our idea. PS: Stan Polley is a soulless bastard. The Iveys soon became one of Swanseas top local bands. 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